. >> militiamen used their militia rifles to defend new orleans against the british. >> against the british. when have guns been useful in curtailing the power -- >> athens, tennessee, 1946. townsmen rose up against corrupt government and threw them out at the point of a gun. >> keep going. >> is that not enough? >> i want more. i want to know where your head is going. you're like sharron angle out in nevada who said we need second amendment rights when the politicians get out of hand. >> that's what the second amendment is for. she's not making that up. >> how would you use your second amendment rights if you didn't like the way your congressman or senator is using them -- >> we have a political action committee -- >> how would you use your second amendment rights? >> by being prepared. >> to do what? >> we don't have to shoot anybody. >> you have the threat though. >> i think it bothers lawmakers we have that capability, and sometimes they kind of let it loose when they're not quite in -- >> so, larry, it's not just the right to use guns to protect your home, it's the right to protect gun